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posted by [personal profile] benlehman at 03:44pm on 11/12/2008
I think maybe that there are three types of indie gamers. There's burning wheel people, sorcerer people, and riddle of steel people.

Sometimes I feel like the last living riddle of steel guy.

Speaking of which, I want to play it again. A big 20-session campaign. I'll run.
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posted by [identity profile] yeloson.livejournal.com at 11:47pm on 11/12/2008
Really? Cause I really love Riddle of Steel.

I'd be interested in hearing what you think are the fundamental divides between the three at some point.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 12:16am on 12/12/2008
Remind me about it in person.
 
posted by [identity profile] yeloson.livejournal.com at 06:08pm on 11/01/2009
You know what man? I totally forgot to ask you about this. Gargh.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 12:16am on 12/12/2008
As any discussion of it on the internet will ineveitably result in Stupid.
 
posted by [identity profile] yeloson.livejournal.com at 12:40am on 12/12/2008
I think we spoke about reward in the moment, reward for later, and how that tied into fiction before.

Anyway, maybe when I see you soon.
 
posted by [identity profile] apollinax.livejournal.com at 12:00am on 12/12/2008
I am not an indie gamer, but I love Riddle of Steel. Especially when combined with Ars Magica.
 
posted by [identity profile] nikotesla.livejournal.com at 04:22am on 13/12/2008
"Indie gamer" isn't an identity.
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posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 03:36am on 16/12/2008
Oh, Brand, you rebel. You, single-handedly, have prevented the formation of hegemonic identities of exclusion and repression on my livejournal.

Future generations will admire your great work.

yrs--
--Ben
 
posted by [identity profile] matt-rah.livejournal.com at 12:04am on 12/12/2008
I've never played Sorcerer, but I love the other two, as you know.

What about PTA people? (What I'm really asking is, like yeloson, what do you mean?)

I want to play your 20-session TRoS game. I don't care how the logistics work. I want to play.

Matt
 
posted by [identity profile] anarchangel23.livejournal.com at 12:11am on 12/12/2008
What about PTA people?

That was my exact thought.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 12:14am on 12/12/2008
My thought is that PTA falls well within the Sorcerer school of reward design.

Don't ask me to justify that.
 
posted by (anonymous) at 08:46am on 12/12/2008
Don't tell me why! I want to get it by myself! Just tell me the category you would put these games:
- DitV
- Spione
- My Life With Master
- Contenders
- 3:16
- Annalise
- 1001 nights
- Inspectres
- Polaris
- Bliss Stage
- IAWA
- Breaking the Ice
- The Pool

Moreno R.
 
posted by [identity profile] opticalbinary.livejournal.com at 12:06am on 12/12/2008
I've never played any of those. The first published indie RPG I ever played is 1001 Nights. Am I not an indie gamer? Am I some sort of weird next-gen system?
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 12:15am on 12/12/2008
You're a beautiful snowflake.
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posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 01:10am on 12/12/2008
Yeah, whatever.
 
posted by [identity profile] lxndr.livejournal.com at 03:36am on 12/12/2008
I like all of those games. Where do I fall?
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 03:37am on 12/12/2008
You, too, are a beautiful snowflake.
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posted by [identity profile] locke61dv.livejournal.com at 03:43am on 12/12/2008
Any comment I post will be about trying to be a special snow flake.

I hope you get your chance to play Your Game!
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 04:50am on 12/12/2008
Thanks!

You can be a beautiful snowflake, too, if you want to be.

But for other reasons.

yrs--
--Ben
 
posted by [identity profile] sirogit.livejournal.com at 10:02am on 12/12/2008
Hmm. I guess I mostly conflated Riddle of Steel people with Burning Wheel people, except for Burning Wheel is much more appealing to people who like shiny new supplement things, and Riddle of Steel is much more appealing to people who like things which aren't in print because the creator is in Iraq.

I miss it when more of the shiny-new people I knew were into TROS, because it generally worked great, except when someone tried to used some of the thornier supplement material.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 05:09pm on 12/12/2008
Yeah, I think I'm, like, the only person in the world who sees a staggering difference between BW and Riddle of Steel.
 
posted by [identity profile] wickedthought.livejournal.com at 11:47am on 12/12/2008
I think there are two kinds of people: people who divide people into three groups of people, and people who don't.
Edited Date: 2008-12-12 11:48 am (UTC)
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 05:08pm on 12/12/2008
You, John, are definitely a beautiful snowflake.
 
posted by [identity profile] wickedthought.livejournal.com at 05:49pm on 12/12/2008
Hardly. I just think you've overestimated games and gamers.

Everyone is playing Dungeons & Dragons, regardless of the game they are playing.

I can make this argument on the web, but I won't because it will degenerate into Stupid.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 06:09pm on 12/12/2008
Rich (http://rich-forest.livejournal.com/98844.html) beat you to it. (http://swingpad.com/dustyboots/wordpress/?p=136)
 
posted by [identity profile] wickedthought.livejournal.com at 06:11pm on 12/12/2008
Actually, James Wallis beat all of us to it.

I don't have a link, but if you can find him, he'll tell you all about it.
 
posted by [identity profile] wickedthought.livejournal.com at 06:13pm on 12/12/2008
And he's wrong. D&D isn't a roleplaying game. (http://wickedthought.livejournal.com/731689.html)
 
posted by [identity profile] nikotesla.livejournal.com at 04:24am on 13/12/2008
Your butt is a big, beautiful snowflake.

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