Heroes live, cowards die : comments.
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Well, in Ron's quote, the violence is required to "assert one's position in life." bar_sinister left it indefinite, but I imagine he'd go along with this, because, assering one's position can cover anything from "I want to life," to "You can't rape my wife," to, "These kids are going to this school whether you want them to or not.*"
Are you asking for me to be able to point to the Mother Ship which holds the codex to all the situations in which a violent act is absolutley, objectively "required". Too bad.
We're asserting our postion's here. So... you better have thought out some of the crucial positions ahead of time. You better know what you value, know what matters to you -- because these are things you're willing to spill blood for.
As for your final question, if the requirement is not fulfilled, then I'm assuming one is not being tested to assert one's position.
Christopher
* Please note, sending armed men in to open the doors of a school for black children doesn't really count unless people believe the threat of violence is REAL... Not hitting someone is the same thing as hitting them is the threat of hitting caused the assertion of one's position to be carried out successfully.
(no subject)
I suspect that sufficient nonviolent action would have rendered those armed men unnecessary, but that's a purely theoretical question. We can not know either way, as that is not the way things turned out.
The moment of effective nonviolent action comes not when the nonviolent protestors convince the Feds to come in with guns and force people to allow them into the school, but at the moment where firefighters manning firehoses disobey the orders of the police chief ordering them to turn on the protestors. THAT is where effective nonviolent action comes in.
The power of nonviolent action comes not in hurting or controlling the "bad guys," but in allowing the "bad guys" to transform into "good guys" of their own free will.