posted by [identity profile] bar-sinister.livejournal.com at 07:01pm on 17/05/2005
As a Quaker, I want to thank you for not questioning my manhood. ;)

I didn't feel like responding to that thread when I read it, although it did piss me off more than a bit. This is a subject that I have thought about at some length, and I do believe that at times violence is necessary. I also believe that those times are far more rare than people think, and individuals and societies resorting to violence are often taking the easy way out. Solving problems without violence is extremely difficult, and I think it is a bullshit cop-out to go to force without exhausting your other options. Yeah, it's hard, but that's no excuse. The only thing violence is good for is wrecking things, and sometimes things need to be wrecked, but you better damn well be sure you want destruction before you choose to use it.

To bring this around to RPG gaming, when I was a teenager I convinced my Pop to play D&D with me. He went through the whole adventure without ever using violence, even as his character was surrounded by hostile goblins, orcs, and minotaurs. It was a very interesting and enlightening experience, and we still had a good time.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 07:05pm on 17/05/2005
As you are a Quaker, I feel that I can safely say that your people are, historically, amongst the most heroic in the world.

My point is this, really -- sometimes, the violent one is the hero, but more often, he is the coward.

And I'd love to hear more about that D&D game. How did he get out of all those classic D&D situations? Did others attack him?

yrs--
--Ben
 
posted by [identity profile] bar-sinister.livejournal.com at 07:26pm on 17/05/2005
He was playing a gnome magic-user (this was old blue-box D&D), and he used his spells to trick and confuse the monsters and slip past them. I think (this is years ago, mind) he had been lured into the dungeon because someone was kidnapped, and he was only trying to rescue the person, rather than loot the dungeon.
 
posted by [identity profile] bob-goat.livejournal.com at 07:14pm on 17/05/2005
Well I question your manhood, but it has nothing to do with the Quaker thing... ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] bar-sinister.livejournal.com at 07:24pm on 17/05/2005
That's OK. I know you have your reasons, you goddamn pollack. ;)

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