All y'all motherfuggers better listen up! : comments [benlehman]

.P.S. As far as I know, there are no well-played diceless RPG systems that do not include randomness in the form of hidden information, possibly outside GM fiat

Would a card-based system count as 'diceless' to you?

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I think "diceless" in this context means "lacking a physical object that serves as randomizer", so a card system is actually quite wholeheartedly dicefull.

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This would be my interpretation, also.

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What system are you thinking of? Are the cards all face-up on the table?

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It's my supa-sekrit card system. And only *some* of the cards are face-up. :)

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I'm going say that if it contains hidden information, it contains a random element, or at least some element which is mathematically indistinguishable from a random distributiones.

I'd also love to take a look at it sometime.

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Cards are a randomizer even if they are played openly--when you draw, you don't know which cards you are going to get. Dogs in the Vineyard's dice mechanic is all in the open, with various dice being bid, but it is still a random system.

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