posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 10:01pm on 07/01/2005
Y'know, it occurs to me that, while what you and Jon are working on is cool, it is ultimately a conflict resolution system, in that it tells you how conflicts resolve. Dave's point about the equivalence with a spell effect is a good one.

When I talk about non-conflict mechanics, I'm really talking about non-conflict mechanics.

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--Ben
 
posted by [identity profile] unrequitedthai.livejournal.com at 01:33am on 08/01/2005
Very seriously, I think that's because it makes the "all things are resolution" error. But, you are indeed correct, it's written in such a way that it is resolution.
 
posted by [identity profile] foreign-devilry.livejournal.com at 06:08am on 08/01/2005
Well, it's conflict resolution because the genre we're emulating is arthouse wuxia, which is structured around a family drama, which is, in turn, structured around interpersonal conflict. And more than a few people have argued that conflict is what drives all stories, which is why roleplaying focuses on resolving conflicts and trusts the rest to take care of itself.

However, what Ben nailed here is that telling good stories or emulating genres or creating fun instances of play is about much more than creating and resolving conflicts in an interesting way, since there's a lot of play that doesn't directly involve conflicts.

Character creation is a great example. Town creation in Dogs is a great example. Setting and color is also HUGELY important. What would Nobilis be without all the laws, including both the in-game law of "Thou Shalt Not Love" and the meta-game Monarda Law that encourages you to say "yes" to player requests? These things form the boundaries within which stories are told. They're about limiting the possibile choices so that the decisions players make seem to have a consistent feel.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 06:14am on 08/01/2005
Yes. And further, just because it's a conflict resolution mechanic doesn't mean it's bad.

I'm trying to say that there is unexplored territory out there. I'm not try to say that everything we've explored is shit.

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--Ben

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