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posted by [personal profile] benlehman at 07:01am on 19/08/2009
I want to write about a new UI "feature" in Firefox 3.5. I want to explain in depth how much it sucks. But I'm jet-lagged to hell, so I'll just say "the thing where you drag a tab into the window that it's in an it opens up a new window with that tab while simultaneously closing the old tab in the old window" is a crappy as hell feature for a bunch of reasons, not the least of which is I have no idea why you'd want to do it in the first place.
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posted by [identity profile] russiandude.livejournal.com at 02:28pm on 19/08/2009
It's a feature Opera has had for a while. I assume you can also put it back, right?

It is handy for large multi-monitor setups where you want to view 3-4 webpages at once.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 02:40pm on 19/08/2009
It is not undoable by control-z. I have no idea if you can drag windows into tabs, as my screen cannot accommodate that sort of thing (firefox windows fill the screen.)
 
posted by [identity profile] emergent.livejournal.com at 02:44pm on 19/08/2009
On the other side of the coin, I have always longed for the feature where you drag a tab off the tab bar and it becomes its own window. Sometimes (commonly) I open things in tabs, then realize later that I want to see them side-by-side instead.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 03:13pm on 19/08/2009
If it was "drag to somewhere offscreen and it becomes a new window" that would be great and make sense. It's the fact that dragging it into the window itself causes a spawn that's a brutally bad idea.

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--Ben
 
posted by [identity profile] russiandude.livejournal.com at 03:32pm on 19/08/2009
Oh, I misunderstood then. That is kind of dumb, yeah.
 
posted by [identity profile] emergent.livejournal.com at 03:41pm on 19/08/2009
Huh, I stand corrected. I thought it was Safari-style, "drag the tab out of the menu bar, and the place you drag it to just determines where the new window appears." The Firefox version does seem much more retarded.
 
posted by [identity profile] salda007.livejournal.com at 01:48am on 20/08/2009
You can always Ctrl+N up a new window, then drag the tab over to it. I do it all the time.
 
posted by (anonymous) at 10:05pm on 20/08/2009
The first time I did that by accident, I was like "What the hell just happened??". It's very surprising when you don't expect it. And it's much too easy to trigger it by accident.

Today, though, I had a legit use for it. When I went into work I had a browser session open on my laptop from the night before. I had like 24 tabs open. Half of them were vitally work-related tasks from yesterday. The other half were from last night, and they were open to articles on health care and politics which I wanted to read later but which I really didn't want to have open at work. Solution: Drag all the politics tabs to a new window, bookmark all tabs as a folder called 'read later', then close the window. Problem solved.

So, it has legit uses. But I agree it's way too easy to trigger by accident, and a pain to get back to normal after you've triggered it. Making it undoable with ctrl-Z would help.
 
posted by (anonymous) at 10:15pm on 20/08/2009
Oh, if you write a more detailed post about the reasons why the feature sucks, I will be happy to give it to the people in the UX department at Moz.
 
posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 05:36pm on 21/08/2009
Let me try to make a topics list here, to expand to a larger post later:
1) Absolutely huge target area for a relatively particular feature.
2) Destroys standard drag-n-drop behavior.
3) Hell on smaller monitors.
4) Not easily reversible.
5) Easily confused with another, more commonly useful feature.

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--Ben

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