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posted by [identity profile] semioticity.livejournal.com at 05:40pm on 25/08/2008
I think you expected too much from a show airing on Nickolodeon, regardless of what you think about the creators' awareness of their audience.

I will admit, I had hoped that season three would open with Azula using her command of the Earth Kingdom to give dad a run for his money, but that was too much to ask. As for "incompetent father," where are you seeing that?

And I think you got all the "human" emotion you were going to get out of Azula in "The Beach." Frankly, I found her later dissolution believable and beautiful.
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posted by [identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com at 05:55pm on 25/08/2008
This has crap-all to do with the audience. Compare to season one of the same show.

Season one: Humanized and intelligent villains, no pornographic focus on confronting them in one-on-one duels, villains fighting vying for power, sometimes violently, among themselves, actual tragedy, actual choices and conflicts.

Season three: Dehumanized and stupid villains, pornographic focus on confronting them in one-on-one duels, villains inexplicably cooperative and obedient within hierarchies, moral choices of only the "I have my cake and eat it too" variety.

Basically, see: this (http://lumpley.com/creatingtheme.html)

And if you tell me, again, that I'm "expecting too much out of a kid's show" you seriously need to watch seasons one and two again.

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--Ben
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posted by [identity profile] semioticity.livejournal.com at 08:49pm on 25/08/2008
The gap between second and third season was when the creators seemed to realize that their audience was mostly adults.

I was responding to this comment of yours, below.

I think the creators set the bar very high with seasons one and two and fell short of it in season three. The first two seasons established an unrealistic expectation that the show's ending failed to attain. They took the easy way out, several times.

Your link to Vincent's essay is well-taken; I'm filing that away for my current design, because it's damned useful. But I'm willing to live with the Avatar ending I've got, rather than choosing an arbitrary point in the show to stop watching. Yes, it dilutes the whole somewhat, but I'm willing to trade that for a "complete" story. I freely admit I'm a lot more forgiving than many people when it comes to animation.
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