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benlehman ([personal profile] benlehman) wrote2006-09-20 07:05 am

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In other news: Point out and criticizing the stupid things that men do to try to get sex is sexist against women.

I'm trying to wrap my head around this.

I've been in many games where the girl who the GM wants to get in bed, or already has in bed, gets special attention, "cool plot," etc. It's stupid boy behavior (never seen a girl GM do it) and one of the downsides to having one person with %100 of the social and material power in a gaming group. It's stupid and it happens constantly.

How is pointing it out an attack against the women involved? The only situation I can think of is one where a girl likes this behavior, and is afraid that acknowledging her privilege will take it away.

we disagree

[identity profile] ross-winn.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
after gaming for thirty years, I think she has a point. here is my response.

Though I will admit to being turned by a pretty face now and again (much like I was recently turned by that high-level cleric with the shiny cross), it has happened a lot less of late, since I am now 40. So many of the gaming groups I have been in over the years have had love triangles, quadrangles, tetrangles, and such that the idea that you trade anything for sex is almost ludicrous. It isn't that you ask for things and get them, it is that they feel you are given things without asking. The two of you share a joke or a private moment even near gametime and you are both plotting against them. Sexually frustrated young boys (and older boys with no social skills) commonly express jealousy and competetive courting I would normally only expect from thirteen year-old girls. Not to toot my own horn, but I once ran a game where all of the players except one expressed a desire to sleep with me. three women and two men. I never once thought that any of them thought it would improve their character, they just thought I was attractive, or so they said. That group tore itself apart as players coupled or didn't. It wasn't the only time I have seen it, just the only time I was in the center. Most long-term LARP groups experience this. It is never about getting stuff, that is just the surface bitch. The thing that is easy to complain about. Underneath all of this is the jealousy that never stops.

Re: we disagree

[identity profile] benlehman.livejournal.com 2006-09-20 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Eh.

Social dysfunction is social dysfunction. I think that one part of her point (this isn't the target's fault!) is fine, if obvious. The rest (it never happens so we shouldn't talk about it) is wrong.

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--Ben